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Hi Lance. hope I can post this.. I just reviewed your book with James this afternoon. hard copy.. just because.. I enjoyed it so much and thought of you when the MONKEY POX mongering came out.. want to post about it.. but not sure I will be able to.. testing now. Isabella

Ok. It did post: last time it came back as unable to post: MonkeyPox.. yes it is true that Small Pox vaccinations protect: I was born in Germany and I had to get one when my family came to the US when I was 3. (Dad ,Army, Mom, German both passed many years ago). There is a medical doctor whom I just met on Substack, Robert Malone, who posted an excellent article. glad he did because I have been very occupied doing other stuff: here is the LINK. Hope you can read it. and for some reason, and now I am self corrected: I forgot you were in New Zealand.. that must be awesome. Have a great week. I will check back to see if you like Dr. Malone's post. he workd with his wife.. as well. https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/mon...

Isabella wrote: "Ok. It did post: last time it came back as unable to post: MonkeyPox.. yes it is true that Small Pox vaccinations protect: I was born in Germany and I had to get one when my family came to the US w..."

Thanks for posting this Isabella. I did receive it from another source yesterday and was also intending posting it here. Am a big fan of Malone.

Undergrounders should view the link you posted. In case they haven't, here it is again... https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/mon...

And here's a teaser...

Malone says "...Monkeypox is related to Smallpox, this does not in any way mean that it represents a similar public health threat. Anyone who implies otherwise is basically engaged in or otherwise supporting weaponized public health-related propaganda."

PLEASE POST MONKEYPOX-RELATED INFO IN GROUP'S NEW MONKEYPOX DISCUSSION THREAD AT https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

A pandemic based on a litany of lies? Absolutely, according to this article by veteran American neurosurgeon Russell L. Blaylock (published on the U.S. Government's National Library of Medicine site). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...

"The COVID-19 pandemic is one of the most manipulated infectious disease events in history, characterized by official lies in an unending stream lead by government bureaucracies, medical associations, medical boards, the media, and international agencies," Dr. Blaylock begins. "We have witnessed a long list of unprecedented intrusions into medical practice, including attacks on medical experts, destruction of medical careers among doctors refusing to participate in killing their patients and a massive regimentation of health care, led by non-qualified individuals with enormous wealth, power and influence."

"For the first time in American history a president, governors, mayors, hospital administrators and federal bureaucrats are determining medical treatments based not on accurate scientifically based or even experience based information, but rather to force the acceptance of special forms of care and “prevention”—including remdesivir, use of respirators and ultimately a series of essentially untested messenger RNA vaccines. For the first time in history medical treatment, protocols are not being formulated based on the experience of the physicians treating the largest number of patients successfully, but rather individuals and bureaucracies that have never treated a single patient—including Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, EcoHealth Alliance, the CDC, WHO, state public health officers and hospital administrators."

Read full article here on the U.S. National Institutes of Health's National Library of Medicine (NIH/NLM) website here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...

James wrote: "A pandemic based on a litany of lies? Absolutely, according to this article by veteran American neurosurgeon Russell L. Blaylock (published on the U.S. Government's National Library of Medicine sit..."

Interesting! This article is nothing less than a full confession that the so-called Covid-19 pandemic response was a hoax. It comes from a highly respected US Government medical organization that is at the cutting edge of medical research.

Wow a full confession...oh yes but how many ordinary people are going to read this unless paraphrased and distributed on a mass world wide scale. Who will be prepared to do this? someone I sincerely hope.
They WILL pay one day, the sooner the better to stop all this scare mongering with other diseases.
I for one do want a reset of sorts but NOT the one they want??

Hi James:
Very informative article
Thanks.

Hi Beth:
I seriously doubt that these perpetrators will ever pay.
Big money is a miracle-worker.

I owe it to this group discussion for opening my eyes.
As Andie Rooney used to say, "Keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them."
Being a septuagenarian, however, I would like to know the REAL risk people my age are facing.
I would appreciate an article (preferably numerical) along these lines, if anybody has come across one.

Best regards.
Carmel.

Hi Carmel,
Nice to here from you again. Have to say I have great faith in Karma and boy have these people notched some up plus I have it from an unimpeachable source that one day they will pay just hope I'm around to see it?
There has been so much info on the vax now (especially google) you may (or someone else) may find what you are looking for, will keep an eye out for you and your wife.
On a positive note as long as you are both feeling and keeping well try not to worry, the majority it effected had more immediate health issues that's one reason they will want another "top up" vax.
Keep well both of you and take care.
Beth.

I am "married into Africa", so I live in two worlds. In the city (Cape Town), there were even soldiers in the streets, to enforce lockdowns. When I travelled into the townships, there was no sign at all that lockdowns existed. People milled about, children played in the streets, no masks, no distancing. And the strange thing is, township residents flocked to the city and back. When I looked at lockdowns in the cities, I thought, "What does it mean?"

Thomas wrote: "I am "married into Africa", so I live in two worlds. In the city (Cape Town), there were even soldiers in the streets, to enforce lockdowns. When I travelled into the townships, there was no sign a..."

I think the entire response to COVID had to be localized for various reasons. Here in the US, we had chaos under President Trump. But fortunately, President Biden made the pandemic a top priority in 2021. And fortunately, the virus is no longer as deadly as it was back a couple of years ago.

This same journalist wrote extreme things about the unvaxxed last year...Pure fear mongering and blaming the unvaccinated as being the cause of the problem and selfish people...Now he's acting like he was always pro-freedom and anti-discrimination

I predict eventually it'll be like post-Nazi Germany where you couldn't find anyone who supported Nazis after the war. So every journo and leader is starting to say they were always critical of the losses of freedom and tried to support the unvaxxed!

Australia’s huge Covid lies finally exposed https://www.news.com.au/national/aust...
More than two and a half years after Covid-19 first came to Australia, the truth has finally emerged and the lies have been exposed.

James wrote: "This same journalist wrote extreme things about the unvaxxed last year...Pure fear mongering and blaming the unvaccinated as being the cause of the problem and selfish people...Now he's acting like..."

Your comparison with post-Nazi Germany is very apt. Here in NZ, I note radio talkback hosts who previously wouldn't allow any anti-vax sentiment or criticism of the government's pandemic response are now softening their stance and allowing callers to at least get their point across. Previously such calls were terminated immediately.

Same goes for the popular Microsoft-owned LinkedIn.com business forum... Every second post now seems to be about vaccine injuries and pandemic-related loss of freedoms whereas previously such posts resulted in automatic suspension for those who "transgress". (I know because I was one of those suspended).

So it seems the mainstream is finally starting to get with the program.

I discovered this really good cartoonist on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/just_an_art...

I just finished reading 'What really happened in Wuhan' by Sharri Markson....To say that the subject matter in this book is disturbing is an understatement. Markson reveals the masks of delusion and deception (both self-inflicted and from outside sources) that have been with us for nearly three years. Our scientific institutions have become politicized to the extent that if evidence is judged to not fit within desired expectations, then that evidence can and should be disregarded. Welcome to the brave new world of bullshit.

Tony wrote: "I just finished reading 'What really happened in Wuhan' by Shelly Markson....To say that the subject matter in this book is disturbing is an understatement. Markson reveals the masks of delusion an..."

I don't know, Tony. I can't really trust Markson because of her connection with fraudsters like Trump and Steve Bannon.

That is the point, Carmen. Maybe we should judge her work by reading it and fact checking rather than judging her guilty through association.

Tony wrote: "I just finished reading 'What really happened in Wuhan' by Shelly Markson....To say that the subject matter in this book is disturbing is an understatement. Markson reveals the masks of delusion an..."

Aye, it's a brave new world of bullshit, Tony. Incredible to think that some still cannot see the litany of lies and propaganda and pseudoscience within academia and the Establishment. Tho thankfully those still too blind to see are in the minority now it seems.

Tony wrote: "That is the point, Carmen. Maybe we should judge her work by reading it and fact checking rather than judging her guilty through association."

Judging someone on their work rather than their associations? That's so pre-2020, Tony!

LOL back to the dark ages!!!

James wrote: "
Judging someone on their work rather than their associations? That's so pre-2020, Tony! ."

Organized crime goes back long before 2020, Tony.

Tony wrote: "That is the point, Carmen. Maybe we should judge her work by reading it and fact checking rather than judging her guilty through association."

hmmm ... why would I want to read lies and run the risk of getting cheated out of money or worse? Truly, what good can come out of listening to a fraud?

Trump didn't write the book, Markson did. It is well referenced and logically presented.

You mentioned the name Trump in your post, Tony. We the jury judge you as being guilty by association. Your punishment will be that everything else you ever say or do or write will now be instantly dismissed because of that association.

Tony wrote: "Trump didn't write the book, Markson did. It is well referenced and logically presented."

But the 'logic' and 'references,' Tony, are associated with Trump and Bannon who are well known liars and frauds. Unless the book speaks truth against the lies promoted by Trump and Bannon, her writings become suspect by association.

James wrote: "You mentioned the name Trump in your post, Tony. We the jury judge you as being guilty by association. Your punishment will be that everything else you ever say or do or write will now be instantly..."

FYI, James. I (not Tony) brought up Trump, etc.

Tony, fact checkers are simply people who express opinions but give no right to reply.

Carmen, I'm no fan of Trump or Bannon. They're uncouth and sometimes foolish. But I don't buy into them being liars. As time goes on, we are seeing that many of the accusations against them are stitch ups, orchestrated by Biden and his wicked deep state cabal.

Back on topic, is there anyone anywhere who still admits to supporting lockdowns? Lol.

Carmen wrote: "FYI, James. I (not Tony) brought up Trump, etc...."

FYI Carmen, you eventually make every post and thread about Trump...one way or another...Your whole mindset exhibits Trump Derangement Syndrome or else an "Orange Man Is Bad" thesis on every single subject...You even blame Trump for everything in the Biden era (Biden being the worst president in history as far as I can tell). And nope, I am not a big fan of Trump either, there are discussions threads I have started in this group being highly critical of Trump as well...

Carmen wrote: "But the 'logic' and 'references,' Tony, are associated with Trump and Bannon who are well known liars and frauds. Unless the book speaks truth against the lies promoted by Trump and Bannon, her writings become suspect by association...."

So says the woman who defended Hillary f$^&*%^ Clinton in another post!!! Can't say I know anyone who still defends that wicked witch anymore (or Bill).

Beau wrote: "Carmen, I'm no fan of Trump or Bannon. They're uncouth and sometimes foolish. But I don't buy into them being liars."

Well, Beau, both Trump and Bannon are in trouble with the law for all their lies and fraud. Trump actually learned the 'art of the deal' of tax fraud from his father in the 1960s. Trump was recently questioned about his New York business for which Trump pleaded the 5th about 400 times.

James wrote: "Carmen wrote: "FYI, James. I (not Tony) brought up Trump, etc...."
FYI Carmen, you eventually make every post and thread about Trump...one way or another..."

Yes, James, Trump is the power behind all the lies people like you help promote.

Carmen logic: Trump is responsible for all bad things past and present: even the death of the dinosaurs :)

James wrote: "Carmen logic: Trump is responsible for all bad things past and present: even the death of the dinosaurs :)"

James, are you saying you believe dinosaurs were living during the Trump presidency?

Donald Trump didn't prevent Hillary Clinton from getting elected. Hillary Clinton enabled Donald Trump to be elected.

The Don wouldn't have got anywhere near The White House if the other choice had been anyone but that evil, warmongering, elitist witch.

Beau wrote: "Donald Trump didn't prevent Hillary Clinton from getting elected. Hillary Clinton enabled Donald Trump to be elected. "

Trump and his allies get elected by promoting lies against their opponents. They don't have anything else to offer, so they just scare people into believing all kinds of crazy things. And when that doesn't work, they become violent.

The attack on the US Capitol on January 6, 2021 is a prime example of what Trump supporters have become.

Given your obsession, i think you actually love Trump, and secretly desire him, Carmen :) your Trump rants are all actually a love letter to him, right? Haha

6th Jan, 2021 wasn't an 'attack' it was simply a bit of fun that got out of hand.

If you want to see what an 'attack' is really like, ask some of the people of Middle Eastern, North African and Central American countries, all of whom have been victims of US foreign policy/ military attacks (particularly under the Dems).

Beau wrote: "6th Jan, 2021 wasn't an 'attack' it was simply a bit of fun that got out of hand.
If you want to see what an 'attack' is really like, ask some of the people of Middle Eastern, North African and Ce..."

Yes, Beau, both my husband and I are immigrants to the US from Central America and Muslim cultures. The is why I speak up loudly against people who promote a violent insurrection as "fun that got out of hand."

Carmen, just wondering what you think of the violent insurrection of 2020 that lasted almost a year, actually killed people, destroyed businesses and was encouraged by leftist politicians.

Carmen wrote: "Yes, Beau, both my husband and I are immigrants to the US from Central America and Muslim cultures. ..."

Given the amount of Communist and/or Radical Leftist policies over the decades in Latin America, that might explain why you cannot spot or else do not care about the dangerous socialism in the US and throughout the West right now...

Scott wrote: "Carmen, just wondering what you think of the violent insurrection of 2020 that lasted almost a year, actually killed people, destroyed businesses and was encouraged by leftist politicians."

Yes, Trump did a horrific job from 2016-2020. That is why the American people voted for a new president for 2021.

James wrote: "Given the amount of Communist and/or Radical Leftist policies over the decad..."

Yes, James, Socialist Cuba has caused lots of problems throughout the Americas. Cuba and Nicaragua are among the nations that are supporting Putin in his attack against Ukraine.

Well, I didn't.
I'd go back to the first few Trump years in a second if I could. My life was good then. The country was in better shape, and so was the world, and society.

You didn't address my question about leftist politicians inciting violence and refusing to use their power to stop it. You have met my expectations.

Scott wrote: "I'd go back to the first few Trump years in a second if I could. My life was good then. The country was in better shape, and so was the world, and society."

Yes, Scott, the Obama Administration did a wonderful job from 2009-2017. And things were still good for another couple of years under Trump. But because of Trump's crimes and incompetence, the country took a bad turn in 2019-20.

Still meeting expectations.

Scott wrote: "Still meeting expectations."

I don't know what you mean, Scott.

Biden was Obama's vice-president from 2009 to 2017. Biden is getting us back on track to where we were before Trump's presidency from 2017 to 2021.

they getting as back on track HaHa is that comedy hour here .

On track with the crazy train.

I watched a superb UK documentary about the 'invasion' of the Capitol. It was full of on-the-ground footage and interviews. It was very entertaining viewing. I thought the shamen came across as a bit of a cult hero.

Apart from when the young female protestor was shot in cold blood by police or the security services, there was only one occasion when I felt genuine revulsion and horror. That was when the protestors stormed Nancy Pelosi's office...only to discover she wasn't there!

Doh! Talk about bad timing! I actually threw my popcorn at the television in indignation.

Beau wrote: "I watched a superb UK documentary about the 'invasion' of the Capitol. It was full of on-the-ground footage and interviews. It was very entertaining viewing. I thought the shamen came across as a b..."

You might be interested in watching the full January 6 Committee Hearings, Beau. They did a great job documenting how Trump refused to accept his election loss and started planning the violence in December of 2020. And yes, the Qanon Shaman was the first among hundreds to be prosecuted for the crimes.